The quiet defeat of Don't ask,Don't tell…

While some people were celebrating a long-awaited and hard fought victory last week, another long-awaited and small victory hardly even made the news.

Pentagon releases new ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ rules

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced today that the Pentagon will make it more difficult to discharge openly gay or lesbian members of the military.


I know this isn’t complete repeal, but it’s close… really close.

Unfortunately “Don’t ask Don’t Tell’ is a law and not just a policy. Being an actual law means to repeal it you need Congress and after the battle we just saw for allowing sick children a chance to see a doctor, could you imagine the viscous and vileness of a fight to fully repeal DADT ? So, to save us a massive influx of spontaneous combustion victims,apoplectic seizures, and generally a Heaven’s Gate Cult-like reaction that would be sure to swap our health care facilities thus causing the rationing Republican’s feary-tales warned us about, President Obama and Defense Secretary Gates  did everything they could do to repeal the arcane law without having to involved Congressional leaders who have vowed to sit on their hands and no longer work for the American people who elected them. Of course,  those Congressmen will still take the pay-check the American people pay them, they will just refuse to work for it now.

McCain: Don’t expect GOP cooperation

on legislation for the rest of this year

…warning of little work between parties the rest of this year.

For those who yell at sick people and tell them “You want something in this country, you work for it!” and “There are no free-ride or free hand-outs here!” tell me, what do you call it when you pay someone to do a job and they refuse  but still take your payment for that job? Is that theft or welfare? I really don’t know  but I love how you support it when it’s your leaders getting the free ride. Who by the way, could afford not to work AND not take their paycheck, as opposed to a man in a wheelchair with Parkinson. Oh and they get free health-care to boot on your dollar. So, not only are you paying a man who has so many houses that he can’t count them to do a job that he has vowed not to do any longer, but you’re paying for his healthcare also.

yippeeeeeeee…. and here’s your sign.

Back to the homos.

I know this isn’t the total victory that they wanted but I hope they see this is as good as a repeal as they can get in this political climate.The new rules make it almost, not totally but almost impossible for someone who is gay to be kicked out of the military. Of course they can’t be as open as they would like to be but lets face it, hetero’s  aren’t allowed to be as open as some of them would want to be either. No matter who you are attracted to, there just aren’t couples holding hands and cooing in each others ear all over this or that base. Open displays of affection are just not allowed in the military.  Before the new standards though, just the hint and rumor of ones sexual proclivity would get them booted from the military. The sad part was that many of those who worked with person in question , lived with them, fought and bled with them knew of their sexual orientation but said nothing because it never effected that persons ability to do their job and serve their country. But when they made an enemy of someone, whether valid or not, the scorned person could pretty much say what they wanted and end the career of those who had nothing but serve their country with honor, but were born being attracted to the same sex.

While many of us agree that this is a stupid law, I can only hope the new standards are enough for right now to soothe some of the anger of  those who are or have been unjustly affected. Under the new guidelines hearsay and rumor will not be allowed, those who are making the accusation must swear so under oath, and anonymous accusations will no longer be accepted (not that ever should have been).

Another change is who can approve the discharge. In all cases the discharge must be approved by a one-star general or higher.

The new regulations, he said, require that an officer determine

the reliability of the informant and whether that person

might have an ulterior motive in making a report.

Opponents are of course against any change, some high ranking (very high ranking)   individuals have said it was because of the Dutch allowing gays to serve that the Bosnia genocide happened. The gays were just unable to stop fornicating long enough to fight, not that all that high-pitch screaming and slapping is a danger to the ‘real men’  they were fighting anyway, but you know it looked bad..What with all those sweaty,writhing  bodies fornicating out in the open like the gays are prone to do while a section of the popular was slaughtered.

I wonder if the people who believe this also believe that most of the world was  gay in the 1940’s since Hitler’s genocide wasn’t  stopped before millions were murdered either. I’d love to point out to them that with all the genocide going on in Africa today,  by their argument, the whole world must be protected by homos.

Genocide, it’s the  gays fault!

Ha! It would be funny if 1/2 the population wasn’t stupid enough to believe  it.

These  ‘feary-tale’ are on par with Palin’s ‘death panel’.  There is no basis in reality for the fear or the people who promote it, but  the ones who believe it are who President Obama is fighting to change. Like  the idiots who believe whatever Palins vomits out on twitter, they will believe that allowing gays to fight will cause the next genocide to go unchecked.  They are adamant and unchanging in their beliefs, to them  gays should be housed separately from ‘normal’ soldiers because it’s the only way to keep unit cohesion tight and moral high. Maybe we should issue them a pink triangle to wear on their uniform like another military leader did. I guess it’s never occurred to these generals who think this way, that gays are and have been sleeping next to their ‘normal’ boys for a long long time now without uncontrollably humping them in their sleep and ruining moral.

The Spartans or Alexander the Great are just two examples just how non-unified and ‘sissy-like’ the homos can make an army. What general would want people like that fight for them?  I mean.. duh!

We can’t save these people from their beliefs and we shouldn’t try because it’s a losing battle. Unfortunately there is enough of them in power to fail in an attempt to completely repeal DADT at this time. PresidentObama and Defense Secretary Gates know this so they’ve done as much as they can to change things anyway.

Even with these new guidelines, will there still be those who are outed and banned from service because of fear,jealousy and spite? Yes, but just like  the new health reform is not perfect  but a step in the right direction, these new regulations are also a major step forward in the right direction. It may take another generation before we see universal acceptance and/or universal health insurance, but one thing cannot be denied. President Obama ran on a platform of Change, a platform to bring us all, even those who will fight every dirty and nasty way they know how, into a future we can all be a part of and proud of and he’s doing everything he can to live up to his promises.

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9 responses to “The quiet defeat of Don't ask,Don't tell…

  • Howey

    These new adjustments require administrative discharge proceedings to be initiated above the command level. That’s a good thing. It’s about time gays were allowed to serve our country without being called a “fraud” (sorry, ekg, maybe you can provide the link to that :)) or being considered a second-class citizen.

    However, you are incorrect on one thing. Although DADT is a “law”, the President could and should have done more:

    http://theworldofhowey.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/with-the-stroke-of-a-pen/

  • ekg

    yes, he could have done more.. just like he could have started off the health fight with single payer and worked down to a public option.. but I think he knows not only are people going to fight any change, they are going to fight even more because he’s an African,Nazi, anti-Christ..

    unfortunately he couldn’t make sweeping change with health insurance w/o Congress.. but he could for DADT..

    I know there is more to do.. but this was a great 1st step that didn’t get much TV time.. and it should have.. Because it is a big deal.

    The good news is like health reform, it is the second sweeping change that he can scratch off his ‘to-do’ list and move on to bank reform..

    sure, he’ll come back to both to perfect them.. but for now, he’s given us one giant leap into the future..that we can actually be proud of 🙂

  • lil mike

    Congress is going to have to change the UCMJ first, otherwise, it’s still a “crime” to be in the service and gay.

  • ekg

    ok.. so I should have said something like Obama and Gates did everything they could without having to involve Congress, since they’re the ones who have to change the actual law?

    Thanks for the tip

  • Howey

    God, it’s good to be home.

    As usual Mike, you’re full of shit. An Executive Order, followed by changes to the law, supercedes what’s written in the UCMJ.

    Take the blinders off and quit hiding in the past.

  • lil mike

    Howey, an executive order cannot alter the UCMJ. It would require a change in the law, i.e. Congress. They would have to act. Remove DADT without changing the law and you are back to the pre 1993 status quo.

    I figured someone who has personally kicked out as many gays as you have from the military would be more conversant on the subject.

  • Howey

    Did I say an Executive Order would change the law?

    Nah.

    As far as the UCMJ, just how does that handle sodomy between you breeders?

    No need to answer (like you would). You’ll have my answer later on today…

  • lil mike

    We both know the answer to that. It’s illegal as well.

  • Howey

    And how many of said breeders have been booted from the military?

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