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The fix.. is in

This is pretty funny and of course has Tucker Carlson’s “Daily Caller” in a tizzy..

“CBS News affiliate calls 2012 presidential race for Barack Obama weeks ahead of election”


Apparently a local station has already called the 2012 Obama v Romney presidential race for Obama, with 99% of the National Precincts reporting..

No one knows why this was put on the screen.. but the people on the DC now have proof of how Obama and the LSM are going to steal the election..

This is not funny. This smacks of a FIX IS IN on the part of the mainstream media that Americans aren’t to know about until the night of the election, but someone slipped and gave the game away. An investigation should be conducted and every avenue of detection should get under way immediately, not just for the sake of the candidates, but for the American people ASAP

Says one poster to the site.

You are 100% correct. Just the idea that someone invested the time to key in the data for the graphic to appear on the screen is troubling. Was the person just trying out the option? Were they building the actual view that they planned on showing the night of November 6th? This is really, really disturbing.

Agrees another poster. This “proof” of the conspiracy carries on for awhile, an old friend even makes a reappearance after a pretty long hiatus..

And accepting donations from Chinese and other foreign people, a clear violation of campaign laws, not to mention the self avowed Communists he’s had in his administration (the czar, Van Jones, for instance).

CZARS!!.. yes, Czars.. where have you been these few last years..? I’ve missed ya buddy.

Cripes!  Remember that stupid ‘indoctrination’ bullshit… ?

Anyway,the shining star in this mess, is what it all really boils down too..

“No, like the memo went out to all the leftwing media…and all they have to do is repeat it. Oops…out too soon! You KNOW the Dems cheat…this would just be cheating on a spectacular scale, by including the vote counters. Deciding in advance who is going to win. There is no WAY Obama can win legitimately.”

He isn’t the legitimate president now and neither will he be again if his wins..Just ask Steve Wynn, he’ll be damned if he’ll take a lecture from this President! Even Mitt and his “You’ll get your turn” shows just how illegitimate the Right thinks Obama’s claim to the Office of President is. So of course there is going to be cheating on Obama’s part, it’s what the illegitimate do.Not that the Romney’s will give in so easily.. I mean, Tag with money from Mitt and Ann somehow owns a company that, you guessed it, owns voting machines in Ohio, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington and Colorado.

“In other words, a candidate for the presidency of the United States, and his brother, wife and son, have a straight-line financial interest in the voting machines that could decide this fall’s election. These machines cannot be monitored by the public. But they will help decide who “owns” the White House.”

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, since Mitt is already cheating, there just isn’t any way Obama can win legitimately..So any win by his, will of course be a set up, just look at that local news election result coverage for the proof. 

If you thought you just fell down the rabbit hole and was wondering where the “Drink Me” bottle was, never fear.. the UN will be here to ensure there’s no funny business going on at the polls..

“United Nations-affiliated election monitors from Europe and central Asia will be at polling places around the U.S. looking for voter suppression activities by conservative groups, a concern raised by civil rights groups during a meeting this week. The intervention has drawn criticism from a prominent conservative-leaning group combating election fraud.

Of course you know what the right-wing has to say about that..

Maybe if we shoot a few of them they might get the point that they aren’t welcome

Yes, that would probably do it.

Anyway, to sum it all up. The fix is in because a local station put up the future election results that they will sneak in on election night, claiming Obama won the election. We know this is really going to happen because the Romney’s are already rigging the vote so if the President does win, it will be through illegitimate means.. making him even less the ‘real’ president than some in the 1% think he already is. But like any third world country exercising what they think is their democratic right, the UN will be placed around the country to ensure there is no funny business going on.

If there’s one thing to be said about US Politics… There’s never a dull moment.

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Pink Slime..? WTF?

If there was one issue you’d think we’d all… communists,socialist,fascists,Marxist… more commonly referred to as, Republicans and Democrats, be with one on it would be pink slime. What the hell is pink slime? Oh no, you really don’t want to know, but I guess you probably need to in order to see just how out-of-fucking-whack our political climate has gotten since a black man was voted into the office of the President..

mmm…mmm… goood! Just like mom used to make.

Look, I know it’s supposed to be “safe” for us but does that mean it’s ‘good’ for us?

We have more rapes,more crimes,more illegal drug use..Why? Is there something in the water? Something in the food? I really don’t know, I don’t think anyone knows but with the shit that’s being put into our food and water? Is it any surprise?No. The surprise is,  that we can’t even agree on what we should or shouldn’t be eating. Michelle Obama started a ‘get fit’ program called “Let’s Move” to help lessen childhood obesity.With that in mind, a school in Pennsylvania stopped serving  so much sweet crap to their student and instead of thinking “Hey ,what a good idea”, Sarah Palin responded by going there, insulting the program by labeling it a ‘Nanny-State’ and served sugar cookies to the kids in the audience…. really? I mean.. REALLY? Is she that partisan? So partisan that when the Obama’s want to teach kids to eat healthy,get fit, and become less obese the “Right’s” answer is to call it a Nanny State and served ‘dozens and dozens’ of sugar cookies?

Insanity.. pure and simple.

Which brings us around to pink slime… what the hell is it?

a beef-based food additive that may be added to ground beef and beef-based processed meats as an inexpensive filler.[4][5] It consists of finely ground beef scraps, sinew, fat, and connective tissue which have been mechanically removed in a heated centrifuge at 100°F (38°C)[6] from the fat into liquid fat and a protein paste.[7][8] The recovered material is then processed, heated, and treated with ammonia gas[1] or citric acid to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into blocks and flash frozen for use as an additive to beef productsQUOTE

It’s the next part that’s so shocking  I think.

In the United States, the additive itself cannot legally be sold directly to consumers, but can constitute up to 15% of ground beef without additional labeling,[9] and can also be added to other meat products such as beef-based processed meats.[9] Prior to the invention of the disinfection process, beef scraps could only be sold as pet food or as an ingredient for cooking oil.[4]QUOTE

Who wants a burger?

These guys sure do…

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Brownback, Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, Nebraska Lt. Gov. Rick Sheehy and South Dakota Lt. Gov. Matt Michels— all agree with the industry view that the beef has been unfairly maligned and mislabeled and issued a joint statement earlier saying the product is safe.

Afterward, Perry, Branstad and others ate burgers made from the plant’s meat at a news conference.

“It’s lean. It’s good. It’s nutritious,” Branstad said as he polished off a patty, sans bun.QUOTE

Now, why did they do this? Shouldn’t we all agree that something that was, up until recently, fed only to dogs but is now being fed to Americans should probably be reconsidered? Naah, we don’t need no stinking regulations and food safety people telling us what to eat and we damn sure don’t want the beef industry to label their ingredients on their food so we can chose for ourselves what we want to eat. That’s just simple communism there folks. We don’t make big business practice fair trade here in this country. We just keep shoveling the shit they give us into our bodies and ask for more and if anyone tries to warn of us of the dangers of things like pink slime or childhood obesity, a growing, dangerous epidemic in the only civilized country without a national health insurance by the way, we’ll fly to their town and serve them sugar cookies and eat their pink slime..

“Why are we here today defending a company that has a rather sterling record dealing with making a food product that is very much needed in this country in a very safe manner? Why are we here today?” Perry said.QUOTE

Because that’s whats needed in this country my friends..

My God, we’re so screwed…

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Comment watch v2.0

Yes, it’s another look at the comment section from random websites and news stories. You might remember some of them from Comment Watch I..

-Sure sounds like we are going to experience a re run of Germany in the 1930s. Either we get rid of the Democrats in November, otherwise you might want to find a different country to live in!

-The death panels are here. My parents worked 50 years, always paid their taxes, never accepted a penny of public assistance. Since Obamacare they have been denied medical care. I read the government form letter. This is genocide and we are all accomplices standing idly by as people are allowed to perish. We are no better than the Germans who allowed so many to be erased from this world. It is that serious. When we awake it will be from the guilt and shame we all share

-This is how it starts.
It’s as if Hitler himself was in charge.



It just warms the cockles of my heart to see such.. uh, patriotism? Bi-Partisan yearnings? Anti-hate speech? Sure, ok. It is what it is…  Anger, mistrust,adolescences,hate, and ignorance. So you might ask, why in the hell am I highlighting it? Well, because.. because the color of our President wasn’t the only thing that change that wintry November day 2 years ago. It’s the lesser known ‘change’ that was more damaging than the erroneously perceived damage from this White House and that was  the day the Right found the internet. It was the day they figured out that they could ‘comment’ on a news story and since then… the ‘net’ has been bombarded with their drool.

Look, try as  they might.. it just hasn’t been the pristine ‘ground roots’ movement untouched by ‘politicians’ or ‘lobbyists’ that caused this vitriol. It didn’t just spring up on it’s own like the Right pretends.  It was actually the infamous Andrew Breitbart who ‘birthed’ all these joyous comments and the direction they took. When telling the world about his delusions and paranoia of Liberals and President Obama he said

Political leftists play for keeps. They are willing to lie, perform deceptive acts in a coordinated fashion and do so in a wicked way – all in the pursuit of victory.


and he told the loyal brethren that for the Left…

The ends justify the means..

Now of course, the ‘right’ doesn’t employ these tactics. Why not you ask? Well, let’s look to the great sage Andrew and see..

The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes.

See, the Right, the Conservative, they are just good Christian people who do not promote or defend propaganda because to do so is to engage in godlessness. So what are they to do to fight the Great Satan Obama and his hell-hounds known as the ‘Liberals’ or ‘Democrats’? How are they going to fight the godless socialists,communists?  Does he want to fight them with God-fearing truth? Does he want to implement a Jesus-love your neighbor-style of attack? Does he hope to build a coalition of the Right, the Moral, the Just?

Nahhh… he wants to “lie, perform deceptive acts in a coordinated fashion and spread disinformation” Because you see, the ends justify the means. To him, Liberals “won the American presidency by breaking the rules of fair play.” To him “It is time to fight back, but it won’t be easy.” To him, if they want to win they must throw away their God and lie with the devils, they must “learn from its conquerors and employ similar tactics” .. and thus was born..

-The best example of a true “Racist” is Barack Obama, a/k/a/ Barry Soetoro. His wife is also a huge racist. Read the book: “OBAMA – INELIGIBLE TO SERVE – LIES, CRIMES AND DEADLY AMBITION” for the facts about Obama’s past, his family’s true origins, his racist politics, etc. It also details ALL the LEGAL FACTS that will ultimately remove Obama from office! Amazon has it – also Alibris, etc

-This guy is a redistributionist of wealth. He will ration your health care. Death panels are coming. Thanks Comrades for destroying America…

-When will the idiots that fell and voted for Obama realize that he hates our country and is trying to ruin it?He’s ruined the best health care system in the world, he’s fired the head of GM to show “he won” and has no business being president. This man has done nothing good for this country, it’s clear he hates the USA.

-Obama is KILLING this country.

-Of course he was a pure Marxist in 1980. He was a Marxist in 2008, and he is one in 2010.It is well known among conservatives and Constitutionalists that our President had the full, enthusiastic and public support of the Communist Party USA in 2008

You get the drift. “He’s calling for Death panels to kill conservatives!”  “He hates this country!” Blah-blah-blah… he’s a Marxists, and Communists and a socialist who was sent here to eat the constitution and shit out socialism where all conservatives are turned into Soylent Green wafers.

It started off as comic-relief reading the musing of the insane, but then it turned into a kind of ‘terror’ when they started to grow in numbers and actually started infecting more and more of the ‘every day comment’ sections of any and all websites. After the ‘terror’ it turned surreal. But most of all, it was just plain addicting to look at. So today when I clicked a story on cnn.com with the headline that is sure to draw those uh… god-fearing conservatives..

Obama is anti-business, Forbes and Zuckerman say

I was shocked at the comments I found. I mean it, shocked! After 2 years of reading about the Kenyan who wasn’t our real president, who should be feared because he’s the anti-Christ, who is not just a socialist, but a Marxist and he’s racist to boot. I was floored when I got to the comments section of that article

-Little Stevie Forbes with his failed Presidential bids and telling us how we should think while he lives in his multi million dollar homes and could care less about business or the American People – only that his millions won’t get a ‘fair’ tax. What a slob.

-Forbes said it was unfair of Obama to take the excesses of some on Wall Street and punish all of them for it. But apparently it is perfectly alright for the excesses of some on Wall Street to devaste the economy of the entire country and cause of millions of people to lose their jobs, their savings, and their homes.
Regulations are not punishment. They are there only to prevent excess and abuse.

-If the President is anti-business. Then Businesses are against the American people.

Whoooaa! What? Where are my “Hate OBama!” comments? My  “See, we told you he was Satan! and he hates capitalism!” Maybe if I scroll down?

-If this is Socialism,we will take it over Corporate Fascism anyday.

-…former Republican presidential hopeful…

And you would expect something constructive to be said by this guy?

-That was incredibly disingenuous, Mr. Forbes, after what Wall Street just handed America.
My taxes did not go down during the Bush years, and my pay never got raised, my bills went up and my employment choices went down.
My retirement fund was gutted.
How are YOUR finances looking Mr. Forbes?
Pretty darn good, I’d guess
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I am.. speechless.

Ok, not really speechless.. if that was true the blog would be over, but I am floored. I didn’t just pick those comments out of a pile of comments by the uh, god-fearing ones.. those are  in consecutive order and it’s not just that story, which should have brought all a massive influx of crazy, it’s quite a few of them. What is going on? Breitbart created the ‘right-wing fanatics’ invasion of the web a month after this President was inaugurated and they have been hitting the comments section like a zombies searching for more brains and the Left just seemed to acquiesce to them. Could it be that Breitbart’s “Sherrod” fiction was final straw? The final piece of lying filth that the Left needed to take back the internet?

Could this be a sign of the re-awaken of the Left? The fact that it’s now proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the Right will make it up, will distort it, will edit and photo-shop it and when caught red handed, will blame it on the President for believing they had some kind of integrity?

Maybe, maybe the Left has finally taken enough and are finally ready to say so. Maybe they are finally ready to remind everyone of the realities of the Bush administration and the abuse of deregulation instead of allowing the fairy-tale of prosperity under Bush to continue. Maybe they finally feel their voices can out shout the rambling delusions of the insane. The first 35 comments on the Forbes story seem to say “Yes we can!” Maybe it’s finally time for the Left to remind everyone where we were and where will we go back if we allow the Right to spin their falsehoods unchallenged ….

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[Howard] Dean is just as nuts now as when he was running for office. He needs to be put in a rubber room.

or maybe the God-Fearing are still in church and haven’t had time to drown out the voices of the Godless.

Either way, I didn’t get my “lies,hate, and delusion’ ‘fix’ today so I will look again tomorrow…

[ Re:Fox News]Any station that reports ALL the news is not a “news station” to the apologists on the left fringe. How about some news coverage of the Mexican thugs who have taken over the ranches in Loredo, TX? The so called “news stations” at CBS, NBC, ABC and CNN are strangely quiet.

Mexican thugs  have taken over the ranches in Loredo, TX? Ok, I looked.. and the Laredo Times says, nope.. nothing happening here…

Hmmm… so much for the rumor mill, but the way the scumbag Marxist NWO teleprompter-reading jackass in the White House is protecting the borders it’s a wonder that Los Zetas aren’t running the entire Beltway corruption machine by now.

Maybe I won’t have wait for my fix after all..

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Attack of the pit bulls with lipstick…

Look out America, here comes the Tea party.

  • Tea Party favorite Sharron Angle surpassed more than a dozen GOP candidates to become the Republican nominee
  • Tea Party favorite Nikki Haley nabbed a majority of votes in the South Carolina GOP gubernatorial primary..thanks to endorsements from the Tea Party in general, and Sarah Palin in particular.
  • Tea Party supporters also nabbed a victory in the contested runoff in Georgia, where former state representative Tom Graves defeated former state House member Lee Hawkins in a special election for the U.S.
  • Carly Fiorina [California] defeated Rep. Tom Campbell and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore in the race to challenge incumbent Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer in November. Fiorina, as with Haley in South Carolina, received an unexpected endorsement from Palin even though DeVore has been supported by Tea Party groups.
  • Drudge calls it, Republican Women Dominate... No, it’s not ‘Republican woman’, the ‘GOP’ was running their own candidates in some of those races and they lost to .. “Sarah Palin’s Tea Party Women”.

    At this point I don’t know whether to be encourage or discourage. It’s encouraging because some of these candidates are pretty outside the mainstream, so outside the mainstream that the people who chose them as the nominee are totally against they platform they are running on..Take for instance Sharron Angle will be running against Harry Reid. Angle is an anti-tax crusader and an uncompromising conservative. She favors abolishing the Departments of Education and Energy, phasing out Social Security and Medicare, and removing the United States from the United Nations. That doesn’t exactly  match up with the ‘Keep your hands off my medicare’ and “Save Social Security” people  who founded the Tea-Party in response to  the Democrats health reform. It also does nothing for the talking heads and moderate constituency crying for bi-partisanship when they nominate an ‘uncompromising conservative’. As for wanting to abolish the Department of Education and Energy . Well that’s stupid no matter who you are,  the extreme anti-tax rhetoric becoming a reality will take care of that because the Department of Education will close it’s doors anyway from lack of funding. Ok, so will State Department,Department of the Interior, EPA,FCC,FAA and pretty much everything else except for the Defense Department, but I don’t think that Tea-party crowd would mind that too much.

    But then, who will police the MTV Movie awards and censor their use of the “F-word”? Who will people complain to when the President lowers the office to that of pond scum by using the horrible   ‘ass’?  Oh my !

    It doesn’t matter, the Church will  teach our children since the Department of Education is gone and  MTV will become more of a gospel network anyway.

    I haven’t even told you that Angle wants to bring back prohibition.. in Nevada.. uh, Las Vegas? a dry city?

    And that’s where we cross over into ‘discouraging’.  It’s discouraging because some of these candidates are pretty outside the mainstream, so outside the mainstream that the people who chose them as the nominee are totally against they platform they are running on and either they don’t know this so they are still thinking that when they say… “Well, when I say I want fewer taxes I don’t mean I want my social security and medicare cut off, I mean I want other peoples welfare cut off” that will protect their government entitlements.  They are so blinded in hate and confusion that they aren’t seeing clearly.. or worse, they don’t see it and  cannot connect it because they are unable to think for themselves in a 1+1 manor.

    Naivety or stupidity.. not great choices .

    The Tea-Party wants lower taxes, even though they admit their taxes are within reason. They don’t want socialized medicine even though they want their medicare. They don’t want government subsidizing incomes even though they rely on their social security. Yeah, that’s why I’m discourage, these people don’t know what they want they just know things went a little bit crazy here a couple years ago, the stock market collapsed,the banking sector turned out to be thieves,  the top echelon turned out to be overpaid with multimillion dollar bonuses  for jobs like running 100 year old establishments into oblivion. Years of their ignorance forced the car companies to falter, the same years forced us to drill baby drill in deeper and deeper territories without caring about the consequences of cutting corners. The invention of derivatives that was born through de-regulation, created a global collapse that put some countries out of business. Things went crazy, and they had no where to turn in their blame. There ultra-partisan ideological world that was living out there couldn’t look to the Bush administration for blame, they had spent too many hours defending justified torture, illegal wire-taps looking for terrorists, accidental outings of undercover spies and their ‘covers’. They couldn’t just turn on that which they had allowed to flourish and spent countless hours forgiving and defending… This conflict ‘crashed’ their minds and they have had to shed all major programs in order to re-boot in ‘Safe Mode’. The inability to look at their creation over those 8 years and the damage it created,  has them living in a ‘critical systems only’ world right now where logic and reason have been jettisoned in order to survive.

    I’ve seen welfare recipients  whose only search for a job is to peruse Monster.Com for 5 minutes every morning, slam socialized medicine and food stamps. Not for them mind you, but for those people who  are lazy and refuse to get out there and look for a job.

    There simply is no reason or logic in that.

    When this is pointed out to them? Even better.. “well I paid into it”.. um, so? You are also out there saying no one should have to pay into it because you are also screaming for less taxes. If you get your ‘less taxes’, true you won’t have to pay into it, but you also won’t get it when you’re the one on your ass looking for someone to pick you up and dust you off.

    Naivety or stupidity?.. you chose.

    The party dujour,  looks at the ‘no fly’ list and questions how a ‘terrorist’ can be missed and allowed on a plane because hey, it says right there this guy is dangerous, but they defend his right to buy a gun because it’s our god given right! Second Amendment FTW!

    Naivety or stupidity?

    They organize a protest to decry the building of a non-christian church near the World Trade centers, not because of color or ethnicity(wink) and then surrounded,harass, threaten, and scare  ‘brown’ men. Even though those men were  on their way to the protest mosque  because they are Christians themselves.

    Naivety or stupidity?

    They want the freedom to walk about in their lives unmolested by government intrusion, but they also want the government checking the birth certificates of any ‘non-american-looking’, citizen or not, just to be sure they belong here.

    They want the EPA to stay out of their business, but want government to wait around with oil-spill booms and equipment when the private sectors causes a catastrophe .

    Most of all the government they want is one that gets it’s funding from leprechauns and not by taxing  it’s citizens.

    Naivety or stupidity?

    The extremism  they demand, when laid out before them, will cause some re-boot again after the critical system scan tells them everything checks out. Those few will join the rest of us who understand what the fundamentalist will do to this country if given the chance.

    No government in our private sector, instead the extreme religion policing of what we do behind closed doors.

    No government in our health care, instead  religion telling us what we can and can’t do with our bodies.

    No government interfering with the private sector regulations or doling  out welfare to the undeserving , instead the Church will feed us and God will end greed since it’s one of the seven deadly sins.

    No government in our schools, instead our kids will be educated by the church or in church funded public schools because that is all that is left.

    No government opening up  the monopoly conservative radio has on our airwaves and instead allowing the Church to decide what we see, hear, watch, read and download.

    The world they will create, will no longer have Freedom of speech because we don’t like what all people say or Freedom of religion because some of them practice non-Christians faith.

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    The Tea-party was a creation of the GOP to take on the Democrats in the mid-term. The GOP is learning a hard lesson this morning, when they allow a monster to grow unchecked and even aided by a so called ‘News’ channel, that monsters grow so big it eats it’s own. Don’t fool yourself, the GOP is more afraid of this monster  than any Democrat. They court the religious and the militia, but they do it for their money and not because they believe in them. Those in the GOP who are still asleep and feeding the monster will awake one day to a world that they never intended to create, they just wanted to beat that Muslim and those Hollywood liberals. What they will see when they do rise  from their slumber is a country ruled by extremism and turning more and more into Europe, only not the ‘liberal,socialized’ Europe they fear but worse, the Europe of the dark ages where freedoms,safety,wealth and status were given only to the church and the monarchy and the rest of us, including those who slept for so long, are only here to make those bishops and kings lives more comfortable.. at the expense of our own.

    Yes, this seems to be the year of the woman, the Sarah Palin,pit bull with lipstick woman.  The Democrats have harbored their own fear of that woman, and by voicing it over and over and over ad nauseum created their own monster. No, not a more powerful Palin, that would be the more acceptable of the choices, because what’s been created now is not a single Palin but and army of them spreading through the country and running for seats in  Government. And is you think a Muslim, Nazi, Kenyan is taking this country to extremes just wait until the neighborhood good ole christian busy body, Gladys Kravitz’s  take over and decide how we live.

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    Dear John…

    JohnD from  www.armedrobbery.blogspot.com/ left this comment on my blog the other day..

    Interesting post, EKG. It’s nice to see the left has found a new target for its vitriol now that George W. Bush is out of the picture.

    “Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil.”

    -Eric Hoffer, THE TRUE BELIEVER (1951)

    I’m sure Palin-bashing is a pleasant distraction from President Obama’s serial failures. At the very least, hatred for her has provided the faithful with a rallying point.

    I ignored his glossing over of President Obama being a target of vitriol himself and  asked him to enumerate Obama’s ‘serial failures’.  His reply was

    Failure to get his health care bill and Waxman/Markey passed, even with total Democratic control of Congress; extraordinarily high unemployment rates; a rapidly rising deficit (over and above what was “inherited”); failure to close Guantanamo; take your pick. You can throw in failure to secure the Olympics for Chicago and declining poll numbers too.

    as I started to answer him, I realized that these questions and answers deserve more space than the comments section of another blog-post. So I decided to answer them here….

    First off, John.. I don’t know you. I don’t know if you are an extreme right winger, I don’t know if you are unbend-able in your opinions, I don’t know if you tow the party line no matter where it takes you. I know you are a friend of Mike’s, but I don’t know if you are as obstinately against looking at things from another perspective as he is or not. Because of this… uncertainty, I am answering with the assumption that you can see a different way of viewing things if shown, or explained.. I’m assuming that you are moderate and not hard-extreme like Mike.

    No one likes to be blamed and no one likes their party to be blamed… but no one likes the other party to actually be at fault and share none of the blame and instead pile it all on one side. Of course I am going to place blame with the GOP on many issues, what I will wait to see from your reply to this is if you can see why I would blame them.. maybe not that you agree that they are to blame for alot of it, but maybe..hopefully.. you will admit that they do share, alot, in what is going on today. This is not a ‘well he did it first’ kind of blame. I believe I am laying out a valid argument. I hope to get more than “well you did it first” or the condescending  “LOL” and  “eyerolls” from you in your reply.

    Now, on with the blog.

    I agree with you John, it is Obama’s failure that Health reform has stagnated. He took it on faith that when Grassley, Snowe and other (R) said they were willing to work on a bi-partisan  solution,they meant it. The rest of us were hearing Grassley call it a ‘death panel’ and how people should fear Obama’s health reform and how he’d never vote for it when he was home on the weekends, but the ‘bubble’ Obama lives in, the same that all Presidents live in, prevented him from hearing that “weekend, rally the base” talk.

    I don’t think it was until Lieberman’s extreme, blatant and almost joyful bragging of this ‘partisan ‘obstruction’ that Obama finally wised up. When Lieberman, who just a few years ago ran on his “medcare for 55” policy and was saying everywhere he could that this was the only solution he would support…immediately turned against it because, as he  said,  ‘well since liberals like my plan, I’m against it now’,  I think the President started seeing what he was up against, and what he was up against was illogical and unreasonable opposition. Do you atleast agree that Lieberman’s flip on his own idea and the reason he gave, prove this illogical and unreasonable position?

    Even if you don’t think it was illogical or unreasonable, how can you fault President Obama for not getting things done in that kind of atmosphere? We aren’t talking about anything rational that can be explained or even expected. Republicans  and that includes Lieberman(I), were turning on their own plans, things they had campaigned on, the second after President Obama said “Hey, you know what.. your way does sound better so let’s include it”

    Rising deficit

    On Jan. 7, 2009, two weeks before Obama took office, the CBO reported the deficit was projected to be $1.2 trillion


    At least  you gave blame to Bush for the 1.2 trillion of it..

    The CBO – which provides the official estimates of the budgetary impact of legislation and events such as wars and recessions – cites the housing market collapse and the financial market turmoil as the main culprits for the shortfall. The federal government has tried to combat the crisis by so far committing $7.2 trillion in investments and loans primarily to financial institutions.

    The current recession “will probably be the longest and the deepest since World War II,” the CBO said. The economic deterioration since September, which was the last time CBO made deficit projections, is the biggest contributor to a sharp decline in tax revenue projections. The CBO expects tax revenue in 2009 to fall by $166 billion, or 6.6%, from the previous year’s collection.

    That revenue decline, in turn, is the biggest reason for the worsening outlook over the next decade, said Diane Lim Rogers, chief economist at the Concord Coalition, a deficit watchdog group. “The revenue effect is huge.”

    and Obama does own his own share.. But we know that he does not ‘own’ the entire  problem. Why is it then that he is saddled with it? Where was this outcry of ‘budget deficits’ going back 3 years and more? How is this President Obama’s doing? He added to what was there yes, but what was the alternative when he stepped into the Oval on day one? You and I along with McCain and so so many others, know that had he won, McCain would have had to do the same exact things Obama did and would have had the same exact deficit today.. This really isn’t an Obama issue.. we all know this but since it’s going on under his watch-he gets the blame..Ok fine, but then we do have to put blame on the person who did create it.  No, this isn’t a “he did it so I can to” this is a ‘I really had nothing to do with all of it, so stop blaming it all on me argument and that is based in reality, not GOP partisan amnesia and fantasy.

    When Obama stepped into office he had to deal with 2 unpaid wars, unpaid tax cuts, a wall street collapse, a housing market collapse, an infrastructure that had been neglected for 10 years. The Bush budget deficit projections never included the war price, when Obama put it into his, like it should have been done in the 1st place.. it didn’t help his numbers at all, but atleast it was honest. Unlike those who are supposed to give us ‘fair and balanced’ news..

    During the April 3 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom, on-screen text repeatedly falsely claimed that President Obama’s $3.6 trillion fiscal year 2010 budget is “4x bigger than Bush’s costliest plan.” However, President Bush submitted a $3.1 trillion budget for FY 2009. For FY 2008, Bush submitted a $2.9 trillion budget.

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    But Obama deserves the blame for all this hiding, collapse and the unpaid bills that all came due just a few short days before he came into office? Which turned out to be more than anyone.. anyone ever expected as more came to light in the coming days after his inauguration? If you truly feel this blames lays on President Obama’s lap, can you explain how you came to that decision?

    High unemployment

    Yes.. there is.. but you can’t look at 700,000 jobs lost per month when he got there to 11,000 in December 2009 and call that a failure.. and you can’t look at the numbers we were at, are still at now and expect it to change the next day.. or even the next year, not if you’re also not going to allow a larger stimulus bill/recovery act. So Obama was wrong on his optimism those 1st days that the unemployment numbers wouldn’t rise past a certain level, fine. But is he to blame that the numbers rose to that level or just to blame for not realizing just how bad things were a split second after he got there?

    Is it the loss of jobs you blame him for or the bad prediction on jobs lost?

    Like it, love it, hate it… when no one else is spending any money… the government has to. For the Government to also stop spending money is a catastrophe on a scale that we’ve never seen before. When no one, banks, businesses,people on the street are spending anything.. the government has to. It has to beg,borrow and yes, steal to spend money in order to get people spending money spending again. McCain,Romney,Huckabee.. Reagan.. all would have had no choice, given the exact same circumstance,  but to do the same. Or they would have watched while the country crumbled into oblivion the way Nero did. The ones like Mike, who argue that no, the government shouldn’t have spent a penny, can’t prove that their way would have been the right way or that we’d be any better off. They can’t prove it because there isn’t a time machine to take us back. So to me this argument is one of pure partisan fantasy. It cannot be proven and yet the GOP swears their way was the correct way. What’s worse is, they make 1/2 the country believe in this unprovable feary-tale. This is where the ‘faith’ and almost ‘religious like’ belief comes into play and it is the cornerstone of a lot of the GOP’s argument..

    You can’t prove God doesn’t exist therefore he must be real.

    They can’t prove no stimulus or Tarp would have worked better, therefore it must be true.

    I call bullshit on both accounts… You want me to believe we shouldn’t have spent the money on the banks and on the recovery act, then prove it to me. Prove to me that not spending it would have worked better, that we would be in a better place, telling me  you are right only because you say so doesn’t work, I am not a believer in your religion I need more proof than that.

    By the way, John.. Most of the “YOU” I use are not directed at YOU.. it is a general term used when speaking. I  hope you understand that.

    Continuing on..

    Failure to secure the Olympics?

    Are you kidding? 1/2 the country didn’t want the Olympics

    Forty-three percent (43%) of Americans say it’s a bad idea for President Obama to go overseas at this time to help Chicago make its final presentation to the International Olympic Committee

    John Boehner blasted the President for trying to get them

    “Listen I think it’s a great idea to promote Chicago but he’s the president of the United States, not the mayor of Chicago,” Boehner said. “And the problems we have here at home affect all Americans and that’s where his attention ought to be.”

    and every night they were rewarded with their opinions by the likes of the GOP and Fox news telling them how bad it would crush us, how much money it would take, how horrible it would be. How dangerous Chicago is

    Yes, Fox news is a factor when they have the massive viewer ratings they have, add them into Rush’s 20 million people a week rating and all of them chiming in on the evil that is the Olympics and why would we get it over a country literally begging to have to it because they want it?

    But ok, Obama didn’t get the Olympics… that’s a failure on his part. But is that really something to hold against him? out of everything… is that an issue that truly pisses you off and just sticks in your craw?

    Gitmo.

    I’ve thought about this. Was Obama the naive one to think he could wave his ‘magic negro’ wand and close Gitmo? Or were we the naive ones to think he could wave his ‘magic negro’ wand and close Gitmo? I think it was both. I think a lot of us listened to his speeches and felt the inspiration and hope in that new era he talked about bringing. I think those of us who didn’t roll our eyes and didn’t decide that election night to do everything we possibly could to make his life hell and oppose everything.. everything he tried, actually believed this was the guy to change Rome back into the days of it’s purity,prosperity,glory and power. We (wrongly) assumed that Washington was also sick on the status quo, that Washington wanted to move on to a better place. That the country didn’t care if it was a Republican or Democrat, man or woman, black or white in office, we just wanted hope and change and not more of the same thing we had had for so long. We were all naive.

    President Obama owns the failure to close Gitmo, but he doesn’t have sole ownership. Jesus, trust me I know it’s like a broken record to say the GOP also owns this since they stood in the way and did everything in the power to make sure 1/2 the country was against closing Gitmo and bringing the detainees here..but it is the truth. Through fear mongering and out right lies, GOP congressmen,governors,speakers,pundits went out to their communities , viewers, listeners and said “No way! Not in my yard, these guys are dangerous,these guys can’t be held in our prisons, these guys are super-powers that can only be controlled in Cuba” and we both know, hell we all know this is factually untrue. We are holding terrorists right now on our soil, we are holding terrorist right now in our prisons, we have been holding them for years. We are holding people who are worse! We, as Americans, have some of the most dangerous criminals in the world in our prisons right now. We have brain-eaters,baby-rapers,kidnappers,tortures,sex-slave traffickers ,abusers,bombers,pyromaniacs,serial killers, mass murders.. and we have extremely smart and devious   criminals like Madoff, Abramoff and hunderds of others. But somehow we’re ill equip to incarcerate men who have probably never had running water until they got to our prision camp?

    That’s the most bogus of all feary-tales ever told. This idea that America is too weak, too incompetent and unable to imprison anyone is incredulous. If this is your belief, that we are just unable to rise to meet this ‘danger’ can you explain your reasoning to me, explain it without “Because they should be in a military tribunal”

    All of this leads to a drop in polls.  You’ve seen the link to the numbers of Fox and just Rush, that doesn’t include Beck and all the other conservative radio. When  they are all, from top to bottom on the same line in the play book, all condemning,ridiculing, mocking, lying,inflating.. all giving out the worst of the wosrt bias,slanted partsian spin.. add that in with an entire section of Congress that doesn’t just stand in the way, but also makes up feary-tales and they believe it, polls are going to decline. How could they not?

    And what about that anyway. Isn’t it normal for Presidential numbers to come back down to a reasonable level?

    The other day I was reading the comments on a reputable news sources story about this Baradar capture, 75% of them were things like “Well, now that we can’t waterboard the guy the CIA will never get anything out him, Thanks Obama for ruining this country once again!” If the only tool in the CIA arsenal is waterboarding… then we really are fucked. Because it’s the opinion that begs the conclusion that the CIA has always and only water-boarded prisoners to get information and it was just the 2-3 years that they were legally allowed to that the were able to function at full capacity in the light of day. The point I’m making is, somehow people  think that CIA  doesn’t know how to get information from anyone without waterboarding them? Is this not the most insane thing you’ve ever seen? Why is this?Where did they get the idea that this was the only tool the CIA had? If  you can truthfully answer that, they you should be able to understand most, if not all of what it is I’m trying to show you.

    Who is to blame for this? Not Obama.. but it is what he must fight against. The problem is you cannot argue with someone with that mindset. Their belief is again, religous like.. and cannot be changed,altered or enlightened.

    Finally, I saved the best for last… “even with the democrats in control of congress”.. This is the most used response that I  see for pretty much everything. This idea that just because the Democrats had a filibuster  proof margine and didn’t use and some how it’s their fault is ridiculous . Listen, I’m going to tell you a secret that could get my liberal-card revoked ( 🙂 )  unlike the GOP, there are different levels of (D). We don’t all think with one brain, we don’t all follow the leader like a flock of birds, that is what makes us ‘liberal’ or the favorite slam of the GOP, ‘radical’ . We think for ourselves and decide accordingly and not according to party/leader doctrine. We are just not that  ‘religious-like’ in our faith and the following of party ‘dogma’. There are Democrats who don’t believe in abortion, there are some like me who believe in the death penalty and guns rights. To condem anyone.. any party  for not just towing the party-line is asinine  and to blindly follow the party-line used to be a bad thing.. but today, with the entire GOP saying “You can’t even get your party to all vote the same way and use that fillibuster proof majority” is so exquisitely  sad, but still not as sad  wanting and forcing any one party to act that way. I just can’t believe anyone, anywhere would want and encourage people to just blindly vote all (D) or all (R) depending on their party and then ridcule and condem anyone when they didn’t.

    Besides any of that, this isn’t a one party system, the other side is supposed to help govern also!

    This excuse…“Hey, you guys control congress.. it’s not our fault” and those using it are right though, the problem is the next thing they say to their audience,readers,constituents… and the next thing is invariably

    “The Democrats need to listen to the country and work bi-partisanly”

    In one hand there is a dare to use the majority, in the other.. a crying to all who will listen that if we don’t do something…have rallies, write letters, send in campaign money.. the Democrats will use their majority. It’s insane! They are literally damned  for not using it by the GOP and some of their own and damned  if the think about using it.

    So John, what would you have them do? Which ‘evil’ do the Democrats pick?  Do they follow in the last administrations path and issue Executive Orders, recess appointements, signing statements and push through everything the President says to push through no matter the consequence and just hope that the GOP won’t cry about it too much? Do they forget their own values and beliefs and just vote (D) all the way down the ballot like the GOP does and is encouraging, or really, daring them to do? What is your solution to this? When one party refuses to even come to the table don’t they force the other party to act as a single mind? Force the other party to do it all on their own, with their own philosophies?

    Maybe the GOP is comfortable using a single-mind, but this is not and has never been the “Democratic” (party or poltical system.) way..

    The GOP has blanketed the world with this falsehood that they want bi-partsanship on every issue, and yet just last week when invited to a health care summit, an ‘exachange of ideas’.. quite a few high ranking GOP’ers said they might be willing to come to the table…. just come to the table now, not vote a certain way or concede a certain point,  but they might show up to the President’s bipartisan effort for health reform meeting but only if the  Democrats dropped their health reform idea and adopted the GOP version. Eric Cantor flat out said that the “only way to bipartisan cooperation is if the Democrats fully embrace the GOP plan!” What? How is that bipartisan? How is that anything other than a great big “Screw you, It’s my way or no way and that’s the only bipartisan I agree with.. do it yourself if you don’t like it! Just remember I will blame you for doing it yourself if you do”

    You cannot, as the losing party give that kind of demand.. that kind of close-fist demand.. and then claim you are the bipartisan party, yet they do, and no one calls them on it.  So I ask you once again, is this really an OBama failure and where is any ire at the party that is actually holding bipartsianship hostage?

    To me President Obama failures are..

    He has moved away from a public option. He promised me a public option and I believed him. He has let the message on this and so many other issues get away from him. He had the advantage and he expected to find ‘Statesmen’  and ‘Adults’ in congress who wouldn’t bastardize everything they could to score a political point and while he’s finally decided to come out swingng and get the truth out.. he’s wasted vaulable time and his ‘capitol’ in the interim.

    I see it as a failure that he is still giving contracts to the likes of Blackwater and doing it even though we know they are the evil of all evil. Why do we need to privately fund any war with a bunch of mercenaries? Why do we need them for private security? Why can’t we use the money and build up our military and pay our troops more? Atleast they have rules,laws and codes they must follow. Blackwater and the likes do things with our money and in our names that I do not think the majoirty of us want done in our name. I do not agree at all with their continued government funding. Bring the military back to do the jobs in our name with the honor and integrity that they will bring with them.

    I see President  Obama’s lack of authority with Wall Street as another failure. He needs to force those CEO’s to either get their sweet-ass to the proverbial ‘come to Jesus’ meeting.. or risk immediate stripping of the ‘handout, even if that means selling off part of the company to get back the money given to them. I don’t know who these people think they are, but when the President of the United States tells you to come to a meeting.. your sorry ‘hand-out-taking’ ass better get there before the ink is dry on the invitations. I don’t care if it was ‘foggy’ or not, take the damn train.

    I don’t care about GOP crying that “OBama hates capitalism .. Obama is an enemy to buisness” because it’s  a load of crap, what we had leading up to this meltdown was not capitalism .. it was rape pure and simple. It’s time Obama starts acting like the President he is and do something about these guys.

    And finally.. He has failed at installing a new way of doing it, he has failed at starting a new era of bi-partsianship.  He hasn’t failed for the lack of trying, he’s failed for the lack of realism. He believed he could change the climate of hate that is the US congress. Not a single congressman from either house or either party can say or do anything without checking a poll 1st. They are not there to govern like Obama is, they are there for the power and the paycheck. It is President Obama’s failure to not see this that irks me the most. It is his failure to not see that, no matter which way he goes the entire Right side will be against him as proven time and time again, even by adopting their own policies.. they will go against him. They will and have cut off their noses to spite their face.

    President Obama is already lambasted as a socialist even when he’s cut taxes and wasn’t the one to create the largest ‘socialist program’ in a generation or more. Well,  if they are going to call him one anyway, then why not use that and go more radical on his ideas. We just proved a lot of the country is pro-radical change, even our supreme court is. So it is a failure on Obama’s part not to use the gift he’s been given by the Right. He will be slaughtered and lied about by them no matter what he does.. so he might as well do as he wants.

    John, thank you for your comments.. I hope I have addressed them in a way that maybe didn’t change your mind.. but atleast gave you a different point of view and a way to look at it

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