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Cut government spending.. just not my Social security.. or my Medicare.. and my taxes are fair so.. Wait, what was the question?

A new poll on just who are Tea Party members has me perplexed. I simply cannot wrap my head around some of its findings.  Ok, so they are older,whiter and more educated  making them more ‘exclusive’  than average and yet, they mock this ‘class’ as being.. bad, evil or…  liberal? A majority also feel that their taxes are  pretty fair, yet their given name congers up the idea of a movement that is upset by their extreme taxes?

They are against large government and government spending  but the majority have a favorable opinion of George Bush? Given that Bush created one of the largest government spending entitlements in history and his push to make government above the Constitution when it comes to personal rights,  this is paradoxical until you look into the poll a little more. They are overwhelmingly satisfied with Medicare and Social Security and find them worth the cost. What they don’t like is ‘welfare’. Ya know, that other government spending for ‘those’ people. They feel that this President is trying to help the poor rather than the rich.

When asked what they are angry about the most, three of the most common answers are

  • the recent health care overhaul,
  • government spending
  • and a feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington

So let me get this straight. They want government entitlements like Social Security for them, but they don’t want unemployment benefits and ‘welfare’ to others. They want government stability  for their government health care and favor the president who increased  these benefits, but they are dissatisfied with the president who increases those same benefits for the entire country. They watched an uncontested,democratically elected President follow the platform that elected him with a 53% majority and yet they feel  they are the ones who should be listened to in Washington, not those other people who won the election.

I finally get it. I’ve always figured it was this, but could just never prove it, but now.. by their own words there it is. I said it before, this is ‘class’ issue. These people are the elitists who are jealous that someone else is finally going to get something that they have.  It’s a status thing, it’s a ‘new fur coat’  that now that everyone has access to one.. well that’s just horrible and Un-American. This poll explains the ‘literacy test’ they cheer for, and the need to weed one those not in their circles with extreme pricing at their conventions

“He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth,

I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction,

I don’t care what he says.

He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to.

That doesn’t say much for him.”

They consider their personal finances to be ‘very good’ and “nearly three-quarters of those who favor smaller government said they would prefer it even if it meant spending on domestic programs would be cut.” As long as those cuts don’t come in the form of lowering their Medicare and Social Security programs, even  though those two programs left unchecked will suck the country dry.

The snobbery this conjures up is breathtaking. All for them, less for the rest. Give us what we want, but to hell with the rest of you.  Don’t touch my Medicare and Social security but you get your welfare from the free market instead of the government. Holy shit, these are educated people? Give us a President like Bush who increased our benefits,paid off our Wall Street, saved our pensions and lowered our taxes at a cost to the deficit.. but get rid of the guy who is trying to even the playing field out just a little for 95% of the rest of the country.  The elitism and outright “I’m better than you so I deserve it more” is utterly amazing!

It does explain how the Tea-Party organizers can charge $549 just for the ticket to get into  the convention hall ( travel and hotel expenses not included) though.

One would question their education when they say they deserve social security and medicare because they paid into it. Especially since the rest of us know it doesn’t work like that, when these people paid into it they were paying for those who are on the system then, just like we’re paying for all these tea-party people now. Too bad they want to ensure we don’t get what we ‘deserve’ when it’s time because we paid into it now to keep them in luxury and they refuse to allow anyone to fix what could extend benefits for more and for longer.

Shockingly, 6 out of 10 feel America’s best days are behind us. Where is Sean Hannity condemning these people for not thinking their country is the best one in the world? Where is Sarah Palin eviscerating these people and telling them that unlike them, the “real America” knows how great this country is? Oh yeah, they’re both being paid to speak for the Tea-Party. $100,000 for Sarah for her speeches.. who knows with Hannity, the only thing we do know is his tea-party event was shut down by Fox Management when they found out someone was charging people to come to Hannity’s live broadcast and then turning that money over to a political movement. (Btw, what do you think would happen if Brian Williams wrote a politically partsian book and pimped it on the Nightly News every night and then went to DNC rallies to sell his book and give extremely partisan speeches to the crowds?–Yeah, he’d be fired and all credibility revoked. )

There is atleast hope, one woman finally saw the idiocy in what she was supporting and had a change of heart.

“That’s a conundrum, isn’t it?” asked Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. “I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security.” She added, “I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind.”


If you mean the original Tea Party and followers were trying to get away from the aristocracy who felt they deserved what they were getting and the rest didn’t, and here the new Tea-Party believes they are the aristocracy who are entitled to what they have while others are not, then Yes Mrs. White.. it is a conundrum. Not too mention lunacy.

When it comes to ‘them’ they are happy with the way things are. When it comes to those others getting a leg up, at no cost to themselves mind you, they are against it. They want to cut government, just not the government that benefits them. Elitists much people?

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Telepalmter-gate?

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For $549 a plate,you’d think they could get the old girl some index cards.. I mean sure, she or any GOP member for that matter can’t ever use a teleprompter again after all of their mocking of  Obama’s admitted overuse of them, but are they  really back to 7th grade cheating?

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ok, here’s the thing… you can’t come out on stage and  one of the 1st things you do is mock the President’s  use of teleprompters  when you’ve got freaking crib-notes written on your hand..  a cheat sheet  for your one-on-one Q & A session. Not if your honest anyway.

We’re past hypocrisy when you do this kind of thing and well into ridiculous and petty!  Not that I mind ridiculous or petty,  it’s the mocking of your betters that bothers me. While I’m at it, what kind of ‘grass-root’ movement charges so much to get into their convention that only the elite of the cream of the crop can get into the convention. $549 a plate? In this economy? If it’s truly as Sarah put it, and not about the money, then why is she making $100,000 off the speech that would cost her ‘real American’ family of four $1400 to get in? That’s just to get in the door, that doesn’t include the flight to get there, or the gas to drive or food and lodging.

Do you think  she understands the irony of this ‘let them eat cake’ atmosphere she’s promoting while calling for another revolution?

Yeah,me either.

As for this idea that these people are the model of conservative? Is it that the Tea-party movement doesn’t care about the truth or that they don’t understand it? While Governor, Palin not only took that money for her bridge to nowhere but she forced oil companies to pay each resident of the state a stipend each year. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with this policy, but since my counter-part calls me a socialist, I would be in agreement with a socialist policy like taking money from private companies and spreading it to the populist. But can you really be a conservative when you take such huge amounts of money from the government  and from the private sector and spread it around to people who didn’t earn it?

If you’re Sarah Palin or a Tea-party member, the answer is yes.  It’s those other socialists and pork-spenders that they don’t like.. the ones with (D) after their name, the ones who elected a black man, the one who is a black man. Oh yeah, that’s something else we learned this weekend, finally the Tea-party movement declared their belief..

[Tom Tancredo]...former Colorado congressman told the first National Tea Party Convention in Nashville this weekend, where he lathered up the crowd with a speech that offered this reason for Obama’s election: “We do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country.”

Obama was elected, Tancredo said, because of “people who could not even spell the word ‘vote’ or say it in English.”

That’s right, we don’t have literacy tests anymore..you know the tests that kept blacks from voting. But hey, this is a good thing, there is no reason to hide behind a hood anymore Tancredo has de-robed the party and frankly I’m happy for them. think about it, it must be difficult to hide behind your hate that way for fear that if you let it out, people will know you really are racist. From the sounds of the cheers and applause, those waiting for Sarah Palin and listening to Tancredo are also glad to finally drop their mask!

I guess it’s just part and parcel of what we have to look forward to, an entire section of the country who believe Palin is more equipped to run this country over the likes of not just President Obama, but Hilary Clinton and *gasp* John McCain.  I guess as long as she has her cheat-sheet written on the palm of her hand, we’ll be safe when Putin ‘rears his head’.

What do you think the Tea-party group will do when they realize that  she is not like them and she is taking money out of their childrens mouths to not be like them?  It is about the money and fame for her, if it wasn’t she would have donated the money she ‘laundered’ through her PAC back to the Tea-Party cause.  How much more proof do you need in order to believe  she’s as phony as a $3 bill and as sincere as a prostitute. People, she used the money donated to her PAC to buy her own books. On the face of it that’s not to horrible, but when you look at how she received royalties for all those bought and paid for books.. you wonder which mob-boss taught her how to launder money so well. This isn’t the liberal media coming after her for taking donations to the RNC and using it to buy clothes for her and her family, this is a pretty shitty deal she’s pulling on her donors. It’s no wonder some Tea-party member were worried about ‘profiteering’ and the ‘scammy’ feeling they were getting from this convention Sarah was headlining. These people are out of work and hurting, her answer is to use their much needed money to buy her book and since she can’t just out right keep their donations,  this is the 2nd best thing.

I feel bad for the real  tea-party member who was sucked into this abyss. I do believe there are people out there who really do want less government spending and intrusion. I believe that for the 1st time in their lives, after mocking the ‘left’ for all of the grass-root protesting, they finally got up their own moxie and listened to the hoopla Foxnews was spewing to  them and backed the party that they thought was the real deal. These people are about to be disillusion more than they ever were before and for them I am sorry. I only hope they wise up to the scammy-ness of where their party is going. I know these people don’t like the ‘Harvard educated’ elite, and the idea of a Nobel being awarded to a President is akin to treason,  but is this really the person you want at the next G8  summit?

HuffingtonPost asks 2 great questions on this cheating issue..

This would mean:

A) That she knew the questions beforehand and the whole thing was a farce. (Likely.)

and

B) That she still couldn’t answer the previously agreed-upon questions without a little extra help.


I don’t know, but I don’t like either answer. One proves she’s a hack and not only does she and the promoters of the convention know it but they’re doing everything in their power to make you sure never find out, and the other proves she’s an idiot. Regardless of the spin, neither prove she’s capable of commenting on politics, much less running a country.

At the end of the day the ‘true believers’ will not believe even what their eyes show them and their ears tell them. Ironically it was not us Obama-phytes who drank the koolaid, it is the Palin/Tea Party supporters.  Obama-phytes didn’t believe he was a bastard son who was really born in Africa, because we didn’t we were called pod-people, I should know, I called them that.  But anyone who says Sarah Palin is a real Conservative, is really smart, is really capable of running this country over the likes of even John McCain..stay away from them because that is your pod-person. That is the Jim Jones follower and like those poor souls, these are just as dangerous. They will do everything in their power to elect this woman to the Presidency of the United States even if it’s forcing her poison down throats of every “real” American and real conservative in this country. I don’t believe all members of the Tea-party movement are as race-hating as those who Sarah Palin read her hand to, but if the ones who aren’t don’t stand up and renounce her and this kind of call for the good old days of Jim Crow, they might as well be.


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Then they'll take their country back from their "Obama Problem"! coup,coup, ca choo…

Well hey, when the website that John Stossel formally of ABC, and coming to Fox news blogs for calls for the military to take care of “the Obama problem” with a “bloodless coup” and install “an interim government“… or have a kind of ‘family intervention’ and then run the government with a “form of limited, shared responsibility”….and the only thing the right can say is that President OBama shouldn’t have gone to Copenhagen for 18 hours,  things may be spiraling out of Rights control.

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the “Obama problem.” Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.
America isn’t the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn’t mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it.

[…]
Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a “family intervention,” with some form of limited, shared responsibility?
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.
Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.
Unthinkable? Then think up an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem. Just don’t shrug and say, “We can always worry about that later.”
In the 2008 election, that was the wistful, self-indulgent, indifferent reliance on abnegation of personal responsibility that has sunk the nation into this morass

Of course newsmax removed the piece and pretended like it never happened…and they pretended that the author was just some random blogger.

The columnist, John L. Perry,“has no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger

But that’s not exactly true, especially when you read his Bio Newsmax.com wrote about Perry , where he wasn’t just  a former senior editor for the site, but was also described as

an “award-winning newspaper editor and writer” who “contributes a regular column to Newsmax.com.”

But this sounds exactly like what some people are hoping for..

The coup — which would be “civilized” and “bloodless,” according to Perry — would consist of a “patriotic general” sitting down with the President and working out a new system in which “skilled, military-trained, nation-builders” would “do the serious business of governing and defending the nation” while Obama would still be allowed to make speeches..

yes, it’s the evil of Obama..Who is not an American, but who is in fact an African with his, fascist, socialist,communist, Marxist march(yes, I know)  should be stopped with a military coup that installs the same overthrowing military  in charge  of the serious business over governing this country and that is the right path to restore this to the country that so many lost on November 4, 2008.

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A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.

Don’t be fooled..There is a need to get rid of this problem ..

“Unthinkable?” Perry asked. “Then think up an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem. Just don’t shrug and say, ‘We can always worry about that later.'”


For more and the full text of Perry’s NewsMax column.

I wonder if that did anything to the results of that facebook poll, you know the one on whether the president should live or not..  the choices of that one  didn’t have anything to do with Afghanistan or Iraq or the Olympics, just healthcare..

The question, “Should Obama be killed?” had received 730 responses since its posting on Saturday. The four possible answers: Yes. Maybe. If he cuts my healthcare. No.

What’s unfortunate here is we know people are paying attention to this kind of bullshit, all you have to do is look at what Michelle Bachman had to say about the evil census workers President Obama is hiring to round GOP’ers up and ‘intern’ them, and then read the brutal story out of Kentucky

(CBS/AP)  It was a bizarre and gruesome discovery in a remote section of eastern Kentucky: Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old teacher and part-time worker for the United States Census, was found two weeks ago hanging from a tree with the word “Fed” scrawled on his chest in felt tip pen.

A man who said he was among those who found the body told tells the Associated Press that Sparkman was naked, bound at the hands and feet with duct tape and gagged – details that have not yet been confirmed by authorities.

Jerry Weaver of Ohio told the Associated Press he was visiting a cemetery in rural Kentucky with family members on Sept. 12 when he, his wife and daughter saw the body.

“The only thing he had on was a pair of socks,” Weaver said. “And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something

[…}

“And they even had duct tape around his neck,” Weaver said. “And they had like his identification tag on his neck. They had it duct-taped to the side of his neck, on the right side, almost on his right shoulder.”

Both of the people briefed on the investigation confirmed that Sparkman’s Census Bureau ID was found taped to his head and shoulder area. Weaver said he couldn’t tell if the tag was a Census ID because he didn’t get close enough to read it. He could see writing on Sparkman’s chest, but could not read that it said “fed.”



It is probably just a coincidence this happened on Glen Beck’s 9/12 protest day…But what if it isn’t?  What if a poll, 2 crazy talk show host crying to millions every night and millions more for hours everyday about how this President is taking their country, a crazier congresswoman who envisions this President’s interment camps for Republicans and finally this article from a popular Right-Wing rag actually convinces someone to act, whether that someone is a general leading the military as Perry seems to yearn for, or tea-bagger inspired by Beck..Would those in the GOP who should be speaking out loudly against this finally say something to the fringe they have left to take over their party because that fringe is working to help them with their “Obama Problem”? I seriously doubt it, like Michelle Bachman, they will just cringe and jump into their limo if ever confronted with what they created.

I am remind of some words that were spoken once.. of course they were spoken against anyone voicing any dissent against the President at the time, but I think those words apply to what is going on now.. I know that I will surely lump the silent ones altogether if the pleas of these right wing speakers is answered..

“But all nations, if they want to fight terror, must do something.”

“You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.”-GWB November 6, 2001



How very apropos.. You are either with us in this fight against smears,lies,inciting of riots,assignations and military overthrow and occupation.. or you are with them.  Staying silent is no longer an option, it has gone too far to ignore any longer. Who will be the first from across the aisle to step up and end this?

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